Turney Duff opens the first Market Hang by asking four people whether AI is going to kill us. Nancy Tengler calls the latest risk essay a narrative play ahead of an IPO and says buy the names hand over fist. Cory Johnson disagrees ninety seconds in. Then: why China cannot close the chip gap, what a total addressable market means when the customers are agents, Louisiana signing NDAs over data centers, and the felony Johnson once found buried in an S-1.
Featuring
Turney Duff, Host, Market Hang, Yahoo Finance
Nancy Tengler, Chief Executive Officer and Chief Investment Officer, Laffer Tengler Investments
Cory Johnson, Chief Market Strategist, Epistrophy Capital Research
Kenny Polcari, Chief Market Strategist, SlateStone Wealth
Brian Sozzi, Executive Editor, Yahoo Finance
Timestamps
0:00 Welcome to the first Market Hang
0:49 The phone calls: “Is AI going to kill me?”
1:18 Tengler: The risk essay read like a philosophy paper
2:21 Tengler: “You buy these names and you buy them hand over fist”
2:38 Johnson disagrees in the first minute of the show
3:37 Johnson: “More akin to nuclear power than it is to railroads”
4:46 Kenny Polcari joins from Florida
5:41 Polcari: Diesel, and no end in sight to the conflict
6:22 Chips and labs, or the companies using AI?
6:45 Tengler: Old economy companies pivoting, and the picks and shovels
7:51 Johnson: Vast Data expects 10x a year for years
8:43 Sozzi: The move in CrowdStrike, Palo Alto and Okta
9:18 Is Reddit the fuel that feeds AI?
10:20 Johnson: A lot of companies are going to put an AI sheen on nothing
11:29 Johnson: Some insurance company rebuilds its risk models and blows up
12:07 Polcari: An AI portfolio has to include cybersecurity
12:33 Can’t lose to China, but also slow down?
14:48 Tengler: Not all AI models are created equally
16:47 How much do the four of them actually use AI?
17:49 Johnson: Palo Alto says most exploits are agents now
18:29 Johnson: What is a total addressable market when the customers are agents?
19:10 SpaceX, Cursor and the leverage of a 20-person company
20:15 Tengler: Why this productivity is disinflationary
20:43 Netscape in 1997, and “we’re not even in the first inning”
21:24 Waymo, and why Sozzi still won’t get in
21:57 The data center build-out
22:30 Johnson: Louisiana signs NDAs, Colorado gets almost nothing
23:29 The $700 electric bill
25:18 Xi and Trump: Would a handshake on AI move anything?
27:38 Sozzi: The only thing that matters is Nvidia back in China
28:05 Johnson: Are we better off with our chips in there, or not?
29:27 Johnson: “If China’s dependent on Nvidia chips, Taiwan doesn’t get invaded”
30:24 Is China six months behind, or choosing to be?
30:38 Johnson: The most complicated machine ever made is not the GPU
31:28 A self-described Bitcoin virgin asks what it would take
32:10 Polcari: One or two percent, and nothing that can destroy you
33:41 Johnson: “I can’t put a lot of money into a thing that isn’t being used”
34:31 Sozzi: Robinhood and Coinbase are competing with the banks now
35:48 Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and why they won’t switch platforms
36:58 Attack it with AI: “We should grok it. We’re on the air.”
38:14 Writing essays at Amazon and at Anthropic
38:59 What if that essay had dropped on a public company?
41:00 The new iPhone, and the fold nobody can use one-handed
44:14 Is the phone going away?
46:35 Oura, Apple Watch, and knowing too much about yourself
50:36 Johnson on why he still reads an S-1 by hand
51:37 The “youthful indiscretion” that turned out to be a felony
54:26 Favorite Wall Street movie, not named Wall Street
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